造物主荷鲁斯启示录

荷鲁斯之眼

完整文本和更新
2005 年首次由Green Willow Publications of Candler, NC 28715, USA出版

作者 埃洛拉· 加百列

第二十一章：萨南达和赫鲁讯息 2005 年 11 月更新
Chapter TWENTY-ONE: Sananda & Heru’s Update for November 2005

第 1 部分 – 萨南达讯息 2005 年 11 月更新
Part 1 - Sananda's Update for November 2005

埃洛拉：你好，萨南达。 我们已经有一段时间没有更新近况了。我们得到的有关更大层面上的进展的最后消息是，地球周围的第四维度将会被清理干净。现在这项工作完成了吗？
Elora: Hello Sananda. It has been some time since we had an Update. The last news we had of the greater picture was that the Fourth Dimension was going to be cleaned up around Earth. Is this complete now?

萨南达：不，这项工作仍在进行当中。地球周围的第四维度中仍有相当多的稠密的能量需要我们去处理。让我们看看我是否可以给出个数字……我想说地球周围的第四维度大约有 60-75% 已经被清理干净了，但还有一些难啃的区域，因为黑暗势力在那里建造了坚固的掩体。我们希望以某种有序的方式推进这一过程，因为此时地球上已经足够混乱了，我们不想增加正在发生的许多人的痛苦。
Sananda: No, it is in process. There is quite a lot of density to work through. Let's see if I can give figures to this ... I would say it is about 60-75 percent cleaned up, with some hardened pockets where the Dark have built fortified bunkers. We are wishing to move this process in a somewhat orderly fashion, for there is enough chaos on Earth at this time that we do not want to add to the misery that is happening for so many.

埃洛拉：这个过程需要多长时间才能完成？
Elora: How long will this process take to be completed?

萨南达：到今年年底，应该就可以基本完成了。虽然我知道这听起来似乎太久了，但这是因为这种程度的黑暗及其各种形式的所有负面结构已经存在了数百万年之久了。
Sananda: By the end of the year, it should be virtually completed. While I know that may sound like too long a time, this Darkness and all of its structures in various forms have been in place for millions and millions of years.

埃洛拉：还有别的什么需要清理的吗？可以这么说，是否仍然有一些黑暗势力正在进行某种类型的游击战？
Elora: What still remains to be cleaned up? Are there still pockets of Darkness with some type of guerilla warfare going on, so to speak?

萨南达：是的，你可以这么说。黑暗势力有着坚固的掩体——这种掩体在第四维度是以太空飞船的形式存在的，就上面的武器而言，黑暗势力的这种飞船具有相当多的隐身和防御能力。至于第五维度，我们还需要处理几个小小范围的区域。
Sananda: Yes, you could call it that. There are fortified bunkers - these could be in form of Space-ships on the Fourth Dimension with quite a bit of cloaking and defense capabilities as far as weapons. As for the Fifth Dimension, there are a couple of small areas that are still being worked on.

埃洛拉：清理地球周围这些维度会产生什么影响？
Elora: What are the ramifications of having these Dimensions cleaned up?

萨南达：首先对于居住在地球周围那些维度中的人们来说，他们将开始将他们的生活恢复到他们最初那完美和谐的状态，特别是在地球周围的第四维度。目前地球周围的第四维度似乎比地表的第三维度还要黑暗。地球上往生的灵魂都被困在了那里，就连里面的狱警也像囚犯一样被困住了。地球周围的第四维度中还有无数的动物灵魂陷入了痛苦和扭曲之中。我确信这种情况会通过第四维度渗透到地表的恐怖电影和艺术品中，在那里你会看到这些极度扭曲的生物。地球人类对地狱的描绘其实就源自地球周围的第四维度，而众多宗教所认为的地狱也都源自地球周围的第四维度。除了清理这些更高的维度之外，如果我们看看第三维度，我们就会发现第三维度大多数已经存在的黑暗结构都在第四维度中得到了黑暗的力量和支持。笼罩地球的无孔不入的黑暗已经高度集中在地球周围的第四维度中了。
Sananda: First for the people that live there, they will begin the process of restoring their lives to the perfect harmony that they were designed to live, especially on the Fourth Dimension. It seems that the Fourth Dimension is even Darker than the Third. Souls have been trapped there, and even the prison guards are trapped like the prisoner. And there have been countless animals held in misery and distortion. I am sure that this kind of thing bleeds into horror movies and artwork where you see these fantastic distorted creatures. The depictions of Hell came from the Fourth Dimension, and what numerous religions perceive as Hell all are derived from the Fourth Dimension. Beyond cleaning up those Dimensions themselves, if we look at the Third, the majority of the Dark structures that have been in place have had their source of power and support in the Fourth. The all pervasive Darkness which has been so encompassing around the Planet has been very concentrated here in the Fourth.

埃洛拉：到目前为止，圣光还没有办法完全穿透地球周围的第四维度吗？
Elora: There was no way for the Light to fully penetrate until now?

萨南达：去年万能能量到来时，大部分圣光都没有通过地球周围的第四维度。它被偏转向了其它方向，但那一点点穿透了地球周围第四维度的圣光却产生了巨大的影响。 随着地球周围第四维度继续被清理，更多的圣光将会穿透那里。
Sananda: When the Omniversal Energy came in last year, most of it did not get through. It was deflected, but the little that did come through had a great impact. As the Fourth Dimension continues to get cleaned up, greater amounts of Light will penetrate.

埃洛拉：我们注意到地球上的情况仍然和以前一样糟糕。
Elora: We notice that things are still as bad as ever here on Earth.

萨南达：有两件事将会发生。 也许第一个将是最戏剧性的，你可以将其想象成有一束光照射到了蟑螂的巢穴中。随着光越来越强，黑暗也随之被更多的揭露出来。地球上还有很多东西有待揭露。许多人仍然拒绝承认黑暗存在的范围。但是，随着这个星球的管理机构的腐败程度被揭露，以及他们自私贪婪，完全不顾他人利益的程度被揭露，局势将开始改变。尽管就在我们说话的时候，地表阴谋集团的纸牌屋已经开始崩溃了，但要达到临界质量还需要一段时间。
Sananda: Two things will be happening. Perhaps the first will be the most dramatic, and that is if you can imagine shining a light into a nest of roaches. The more Light that comes, the more the Dark will be revealed. And there is so much to be revealed. Many people still refuse to acknowledge the extent of the Darkness. But as the extent of the corruption that is in the governing bodies of this Planet is uncovered, and the extent to which they have no one's interest in their heart but their own selfish greed is revealed, things will be begin to change. It will take a little while longer before the critical mass is to happen, although the house of cards is beginning to crumble as we speak.

埃洛拉：赫鲁表示，重大变化，例如地球负面权力结构的崩溃，将在冬至时开始显化出来。你同意这个赫鲁预测的这个时间吗？
Elora: Heru stated that the big changes, such as the crumbling of the negative power structures of Earth, would start to be visible by the Winter Solstice. Do you agree with this timing?

萨南达：是的，实际上这个月是一个关键时刻。凯伦告诉我，可能会有更多针对政府官员的起诉。气候正在迅速变化，大势正在转向对当权者不利的方向。从现在到一月份，将会有大量的员工辞职。
Sananda: Yes, and actually right now this month is a pivotal time. Karen informs me there may be more indictments against government officials. The climate is changing rapidly and the tide is turning against those in power. Between now and January there will be significant resignations.

我想谈的一件事是美国民众的情绪。 卡特里娜飓风的打击仿佛深深地伤害了这个国家的心灵，让人们在情感上将其与9/11的恐怖袭击联系在一起。人们的这种情绪有可能给美国带来致命的打击。因为这种情绪导致了美国众多民众对国家日益失望。对于那些曾经深爱着美国的民众来说，这是一个无比痛苦的过程。对于一些人来说，他们的自我价值感和自豪感来自于他们生活的国家或城市在全球排名第一这一点，就像他们希望自己的大学球队成为全国第一那样。对于那些人来说，这是一个极其痛苦的过程。 [埃洛拉：这是他们的竞争本性吗？] 是的，这也许是成熟的一种状态。不过我认为许多读者们会有一种更加进化的自我意识，因而不会将自己寄托于一个国家或群体带给自己的身份。但我想让读者们明白，这个世界上的大多数人是如何因自我的匮乏感而将自己依附于群体以获得安全和地位的。当这种情况崩溃时，这些人就会出现很多痛苦和恐惧。
One thing I would like to talk about is the mood in the US. It is as if the blow from Hurricane Katrina has wounded the psyche of this Country deeply and made people connect it emotionally with the blow of 9/11. There is feeling amongst the people that these may have been fatal blows. And so there is a growing sense of national despair in regards to the identity people have with nationhood. For some people it is very deep, for this is very painful process. For some people their sense of self worth and pride comes from living in a nation or a city that they can call number one, just as they would wish their college team to be number one. And for those people this is an extremely painful process. [Elora: Is it their competitive nature?] It is that, and it is perhaps a state of maturity. I think that many of the readers will have a somewhat more evolved sense of self that does not depend on flag or group identity. But I want the readers to understand how most people of this world, through feelings of inadequacy, will attach themselves to groups for security and status. And as this breaks down much anguish and fear will occur.

埃洛拉：我们的一位读者问； 九月之战（换句话说，即清理地球周围第四维度的战斗）之后会发生什么？我们会看到秘密政府和布什家族的王朝统治被曝光吗？公民会远离共和党和民主党吗？他们会开始拥抱独立政党和绿色和平这样的进步政党吗？
Elora: One of our Readers asks; What will happen after the Battle in September [in other words, the battle to clean up the 4th Dimension]? Will we see the exposure of the Secret Government and the dynastic rule of the Bush Family? Will citizens move away from Republican and Democratic Parties? Will they begin to embrace Independent Parties and Progressive Parties like Greenpeace?

萨南达：基本上，上述所有问题的答案都是肯定的。我不太了解绿色和平组织，但美国将会有更多的运动发生。许多普通大众的已经开始全力行动起来了，而直到此时此刻，基本上他们的这些努力都被媒体和当权政府完全无视了。但到了2006年时，他们将不再可能无视民众的声音。
Sananda: Basically, the answer is yes to the all of the above. I don't know specifically about Greenpeace, but there will be a lot more activity in the US. There are the beginnings of a lot of grass roots efforts and up until this time, basically they have been monolithically ignored by the media and governments in power. In the year 2006 this will no longer be possible.

埃洛拉：我知道暂定的计划是在 11 月让正面外星人公开登陆。到时候你们是否仍计划进行这次登陆？
Elora: I know that tentative plans were laid to have a Public Landing of the positive ET's in November. Is this landing still planned for that month?

萨南达：不，这至少要推迟到明年。 我相信三月时，我们正在进行初步的考虑。 [埃洛拉：是什么导致了这种延迟的发生？] 因为清理工作花费了比我们预期更长的时间。
Sananda: No, that has been delayed until at least next year. I believe March is the timing that is tentatively being looked at. [Elora: What is the delay?] The cleanup has been taking longer than expected.

埃洛拉：我确信，像公开大规模登陆这样的事情会经过你们深思熟虑后才做出的决定。 然而，我想说的是，地球上的人们迫切需要希望。我们需要知道我们并不孤单，我们需要知道帮助并不遥远。
Elora: I am sure that much thought and decision would go into something like these Public Landings. However, I would like to state that the people of Earth desperately need hope. We need to know that we are not alone and that help is not that far away.

萨南达：造成我们登陆延误的主要原因是为了保证宇宙飞船上人员的安全。因为他们不会以入侵者或征服者的身份乘坐武装飞船而来——尽管他们可以，但他们不会。如果他们现在来的话，他们就会遭到地球黑暗势力攻击并被消灭。所以，是的，我理解这个星球上的情况非常危急，并且我不希望登陆被拖延到超过解放地球所必要的时间。我有理由相信，明年初他们就能前来执行登陆任务。
Sananda: The main reason for the delay is for the safety of those in the Space-ships. They will not come in weaponized ships as invaders or conquerors - although they could, they will not. If they were to come now, they would be attacked and destroyed. So yes, I appreciate the desperateness of the situation on this Planet and do not wish to delay it longer than necessary. I feel reasonably sure that early into next year they will be able to come.

埃洛拉：这次登陆会被媒体掩盖吗？
Elora: Will this Landing be covered up by the media?

萨南达：我认为主流媒体将会试图贬低、抹黑、忽视和忽略它。但它依然会渗透到大众的视野里，并被传播出去，因为全世界会有如非常多的人目睹这次登陆。
Sananda: I think there will be an attempt from the mainstream media to discount, discredit, disregard and ignore it. But it will bleed through because there will be so many worldwide.

埃洛拉：过去一个月左右的时间里，地球上发生了一些可怕的悲剧。卡特里娜飓风袭击了新奥尔良，然后印度/巴基斯坦边境发生了毁灭性的地震。我们该如何理解在这个时代发生的这些悲剧呢？
Elora: The last month or so has brought some terrible tragedies to Earth. We had Hurricane Katrina which struck New Orleans, and then a devastating earthquake on the India/Pakistani border. How can we make sense of such tragedies in this time?

萨南达：这个星球被创造为这个宇宙中最珍贵的宝石，是这个宇宙中十二个生物宝库之一。它备受追捧，也是光明与黑暗之间最后一场伟大战斗的焦点。当光明势力与黑暗势力为了争夺对它的控制权而不断拉扯时，这颗星球本身不禁因此而颤抖和抽搐。有时你们也会在地球上注意到这一点，即地球上一些最动荡的地区往往会出现在各国有争议的边界或自治地区。例如印度尼西亚和克什米尔的兴都库什山脉（巴基斯坦有争议的边境）。
Sananda: This Planet was created as a most valuable gem, one of the Twelve Bio-libraries in this Universe. It is highly sought-after territory and the focus for the last of the great battles between the Light and the Dark. As the Forces of Light and Dark tug, push and pull and fight for control, the Planet itself cannot help but shake and convulse. You will notice at times that some of the areas of greatest convulsion are areas of disputed borders or autonomy. Some of these are Indonesia and the Hindu Kush Mountains of Kashmir (the disputed borders of Pakistan).

为了减轻这个星球上的创伤和痛苦，人们进行了很多祈祷，也做出了许多的努力。黑暗势力正在失去它们的控制权，但虽然它们的控制权已经大大减少了，但在读者们看来，地表的情况依旧是可怕的，无法忍受的——这对很多人来说都是如此。然而，如果没有人们在过去二十多年的多次祈祷以及光工们在这个星球上所做的工作，那现在地表的情况将会糟糕的多得多。你们的工作是值得赞扬的。也许你们已经将这一时期的可怕灾难减少了一半，而最糟糕的时期应该会在 2007 年的某个时候结束。
There has been much prayer and effort to lesson the degree of trauma and misery on this Planet. Control is being wrested from the Dark, and while it has been lessened considerably, it may appear to the Readers that things are terrible beyond enduring - and they are for many. However, it is not as bad as it would have been without the many prayers for the last twenty or so years and the work that has been done by the Light Workers on this Planet. You are all to be commended on your work. You have perhaps cut the terrible disasters of this time period in half, and the worst of it should be over with some time in 2007.

埃洛拉：除了直接的物质援助之外，我们还有什么方法可以帮助那些陷入灾难的人们呢？
Elora: Is there any way, besides direct material assistance, that we can help those people caught in these disasters?

萨南达：有的，你们可以通过祈祷、冥想和集中你们希望他们获得帮助的意念为他们送去帮助。在你们的内在层位面有许多存有可以提供帮助。在那有无数的天使和大天使，还有光战士和上帝战士。如果你们请求他们伸出援手，并通过你们集中的意念和祈祷为他们指明他们的工作方向，那么你们的帮助就可以更轻松地到达这些受灾的地区。
Sananda: Yes, prayer, meditation and focused intent. There are many Beings available on the Inner Planes to help. There are masses of Angels and Archangels beyond your ability to count, there are Light Warriors and God Warriors as well. If you will ask them and point them in a direction through your focused intent and prayer, your help can then more easily reach those areas.

埃洛拉：据我们了解，原子修正虽然在更高维度上非常有效，但在到达第三维度方面并未完全有效。是这样吗？如果是，你能解释一下原因吗？
Elora: It is our understanding that the Atomic Correction, though very effective on the Higher Dimensions, has not been fully effective in reaching the Third Dimension. Is this correct, and if so can you explain this?

萨南达：确实如此。这个星球上存在许多阻碍，我们正在修正其中的大部分阻碍。目前我们还不是很清楚该如何解决它们，但我们已经在着手对它们进行研究了。
Sananda: Yes. There are many barriers on this Planet, much of which we are in the process of correcting. It is not fully known what the solution is to this, but is definitely being worked on.

埃洛拉：据我们了解，最初造物主目前正在与一个工作委员会合作，以从更本质的层面上对地球进行原子和能量密度的修正。你能详细说明一下吗？
Elora: It is also our understanding that Prime Creator is currently working with a task force on doing the atomic and density corrections from a more fundamental place. Can you elaborate on this?

萨南达：我不是该委员会的成员，所以我没有太多信息。我只知道最初造物主正在研究解决方案。
Sananda: I am not part of that Committee so I don't have a lot of information. I just know that it is being worked on.

埃洛拉：上帝呼吸会在什么时候被再次释放？
Elora: When is the Breath of God going to be released again?

萨南达：我们希望能在 2006 年初实现这一点。
Sananda: We are hoping early in the year of 2006.

埃洛拉：上帝呼吸将会实现什么目标？
Elora: What is expected that the Breath of God will accomplish?

萨南达：当上帝呼吸可以畅通无阻的到达地球上时，它会将地球上的一切恢复到它们最初未被扭曲的结构和存在的意义。如果你们在日常工作中仔细观察，你们就不难发现到底有多少生命形式是被扭曲的、病态的、受损的或缺乏活力的，然后你们就会明白上帝呼吸到来的意义是什么。让我举一个小例子。如果你们见过两棵树在阳光下争夺同一空间，它们会压倒、扭曲、损坏，甚至经常试图杀死对方。这在光明扇区是绝对不会发生的。因此，上帝呼吸会修正所有这类事情，以及那些不和谐的根源。最初造物主最近还将其扩展为不仅会涵盖并影响有生命的物质形式，还会涵盖并影响惰性物资或无机质。上帝呼吸成功的关键是找到那些阻碍其穿透地球的黑暗势力的计划和阻碍。而为了确保上帝呼吸能够顺利的穿透地球所需的工作，基本上与修正地球原子扭曲所涉及的工作相同。
Sananda: When unimpeded, it restores everything to its original structure and purpose. If you look in your everyday work at how many life forms are distorted, sick or damaged or less than vibrant you will get the feeling of what that will do. Let me give a small example. If you have ever seen two trees that have fought for the same space in the sun, they lean, twist, damage, and often kill each other. This would never happen in the Light Sector. And so the Breath of God sets those kinds of things to right, those fundamental disharmonies. Just expand that to cover not only life forms but inert or inorganic forms as well. The key here to the success of the Breath of God is locating those Fallen programs and obstacles that are preventing it from coming through. And that is fundamentally the same work that is involved in rectifying the atomic distortions.

埃洛拉：上帝之石和返回光之宇宙的门户已经再次开启了吗？
Elora: Have the God Stones and the Portals back to the Light Universes been opened up again?

萨南达：还没有。我相信它们可能会在一个月内开启。现在可能有一到两个上帝之石和返回门户是开放的，但总的来说它们大多都已经被关闭了。
Sananda: Not yet. I believe they will be in perhaps a month. There may be one to two open now but by and large they are closed.

埃洛拉：我有时会想，身处光明扇区以及黑暗扇区中的每个人，是否最终都会知道黑暗入侵的真相以及黑暗扇区中发生的事情。首先我想问的是，光明扇区的大多数具有强大感知能力的存有——比如天使、大天使、人类和造物主神——都知道真实的故事和所发生事情的全貌吗？
Elora: I sometimes wonder whether everyone, both in the Light and in the Dark Sectors, will ultimately know the truth about the Invasion of Darkness and what happened here in the Dark Sector. To start with, do most of the highly sentient Beings in the Light Sector - the Angels, Archangels, Humans, and Creator Gods - know the true story and full extent of what has occurred?

萨南达：是的，他们中的大多数人通过他们在黑暗扇区的家人或自己的不同化身了解了这一切，因为万物都是相连的..
Sananda: They do, for most of them have through their Relatives or Aspects in the Dark Sector. Everything is connected ..

埃洛拉：当堕落扇区得到恢复后，生活在其中的人类和其他存有会怎样？现在，如果你看看地球上的人类，几乎没有人知道到底发生了什么。甚至大多数光之工作者仍然相信黑暗只是一种幻象。地球上的所有人类最终都会知道并理解这里所发生的入侵、堕落和救援吗？
Elora: How about the Humans and other Beings in the Fallen Sector, as it becomes rehabilitated? Right now, if you look at Humans on Earth, almost no one has a clue as to what has really been going on. Even most Light Workers are still of the belief that the Darkness is an illusion. Will all Humans on Earth eventually know and understand about the Invasion, the Fall, and the Rescue that has occurred?

萨南达：我相信是这样的。他们可能不会在有生之年了解一切。 他们可能会在能够理解这一切之前就离开了自己现在的这副身体，但是，是的，他们最终都会了解一切。
Sananda: I believe so. They may not in their lifetime. They may end up leaving their bodies before they are able to comprehend, but yes.

埃洛拉：你有什么对当前地球内部和周围的局势，以及可以帮助我们了解在未来几个月要经历的事情的信息要补充吗？我们已经非常接近承诺中的，我们将看到地球发生变化的时刻，我认为现在让人们体验到看的见摸得着的变化是非常重要的。
Elora: Is there anything you would like to add that would be a helpful perspective regarding the current situation in and around Earth, and what we can expect in the next few months? We are coming very close to the time when we have been promised that we would see changes on our Planet, and I feel it is important that people be able to experience something that is tangible.

萨南达：首先，我想说此刻地球就像一个高压锅。这会是地球上有史以来，或者说可能达到的最令人不适的一段时间。人们这种不舒服的感觉将在明年初达到顶峰并开始有所缓解。因此，在这个时候，对每个人来说，最重要的是保持安全、警惕和受到保护——但不要处于恐惧而这样去做，而是要保持和平、爱与光的状态。接下来我要说的是，此时发生的最美妙的事情之一就是每个人都可以获得这些伟大的天使和天神存有们的帮助，请大家记得呼唤他们。你们永远不会缺乏他们的帮助。你们与这些存有形成的关系在很多方面都是非常真诚和美妙的。
Sananda: First, I want to say that Earth is like a pressure cooker. It is the most uncomfortable that it has ever been or ever will be. This will max out and ease up early next year. So, at this point in time for everyone it is most important to remain safe, alert and protected - but to not do so in a fearful way, but instead remain in a state of Peace and Love and Light. Then next I would say that one of the most wonderful things which is happening at this point is the access available to everyone for the help of these great Angelic and Celestial Beings, and to please call on them. There is no lack of help. The relationships that are formed with these Beings are very heartfelt and wonderful in so many facets.

埃洛拉：萨南达，在我们今天交流的最后，你还有什么想对大家说的吗？
Elora: Sananda, do you have any words to say in closing?

萨南达：有的。致亲爱的读者：我向阅读本文的每个人致以祝福。我衷心希望你们在心理、情感和精神上都处于一个安全的环境中。请随时呼唤我。无论你们是出于需要、还是出于爱而呼唤我，或以其它任何方式呼唤我，我都会回应你们的呼唤而来。我对你们此时出现在地球上所表现出的勇气和勇敢表示最崇高的敬意。我对你们的所有努力表示赞赏，因为我知道你们中的许多人做出了许多的牺牲。我向你们所有人致以祝福。让我们下次再会。
Sananda: Yes. To the dear Readers: I extend my blessings to everyone reading this. My heartfelt hope is that you are in a safe environment on all levels-psychologically, emotionally and spiritually. Call upon me at any time. Call upon me out of need, out of love, call upon me in any way and I will come. I have the deepest regard for the courage and bravery that you exhibit in just merely making an appearance on Earth at this time. I applaud all of your efforts for I know many of you have sacrificed much. My blessings to all of you. Farewell for now.

第 2 部分 – 赫鲁讯息更新 2005 年 11 月
Part 2 - Heru's Update for November 2005

埃洛拉：我们知道，地球的一个密室里储存着完美的遗传物质——这些遗传物质来自上帝宇宙，目的是为了修正地球上的生命形式中被破坏的遗传学基因。这一修正什么时候会发生？这些遗传物质什么时候会被光明势力拿出来使用？
Elora: We know that there is perfect genetic material stored within a secret chamber in the Earth - that which was brought here from the Godverse in order that the corrupted genetics of life forms of Earth can be corrected. When is this going to occur? When will this material be brought forth and used?

赫鲁：当安全的时候。我预计会在几年内。我认为五年内光明势力肯定会开始释放这些遗传物质。
Heru: When it is safe. I can't give a time more than within a very few years. I would think certainly within five years there will be the beginnings of the release of this material.

埃洛拉：现在我们有一些来自最近读过《圣光的回归》的读者们提出的问题。以下问题由 安库尔·帕特勒提出。安库尔，感谢你睿智而全面的提问！
Elora: Now we have some Reader questions from someone who has recently read The Return of Ught. The following questions were submitted by Ankur Patel. Ankur, thank you for your intelligent and thoughtful queries!

安库尔：我还没有完全理解有关灵魂阶梯上的不同维度的灵魂的部分。根据我读过的其他秘法的资料，我了解到除了我们的肉身之外，我们还有星光体、心智体等等。那么我的星光体是一个有生命的，拥有独立意识的灵魂吗？如果是这样，那么星体投射是怎么发生的呢？我确信对此我有些理解不到位的地方。
Ankur: I do not fully understand the part about the Aspects. According to other esoteric material I've read, I learned that in addition to our Physical bodies, we also have Astral bodies, Mental bodies, etc. So is my Astral body an autonomous Aspect with a life of its own? If so, then how is Astral projection possible? I’m sure there is something I do not understand correctly.

赫鲁：这两者是两个不同的事物——灵魂阶梯在不同维度上的灵魂和像星光体等这样的精微身体是不同的。每个拥有第三维度身体的人都有一个星光体，但每个人拥有第三维度身体的人的灵魂阶梯都不会在第四维度存在独立的灵魂。所以这两者并不矛盾 [即星光体和第四维度的灵魂]但它们实际上彼此并没有什么关系。当一个人在梦中处于星光体时，他们并不处于他们灵魂阶梯在第四维度的身体中[这里我们假设他的灵魂阶梯在第四维度有一个灵魂的话，当然这种情况并不存在。]【译注：这里的意思是第四维度存在的灵魂都是那些已经离开了他们第三维度肉体的灵魂，即往生者的灵魂。而正常活着的第三维度人类的灵魂阶梯在第四维度上是不存在灵魂的，或者说不存在第四维度的高我。这里，结合埃洛拉的灵魂阶梯在其它所有维度上都没有其他的灵魂这一点，我们也不难得出以下两点结论：1.我们的灵魂阶梯并不是在所有维度上都一定会有灵魂存在；2.在第三维度拥有肉身的人类，其灵魂阶梯不会在第六维度以下存在除他以外的其它灵魂，而只会存在和这个第三维度肉体一体的多维度身体，即电浆体、以太体、星光体和心智体】
Heru: These are two separate things - the Dimensional ladder with the Aspects, and the subtle bodies like the Astral body and so on. Everyone that has a Third Dimensional body has an Astral body, but everybody does not have an Aspect on the Fourth Dimension. So the two can exist simultaneously [i.e. the Astral body and a Fourth Dimensional Aspect] but they actually have very little to do with each other. When a person is in the Astral body in their dream time they are not in the body of their 4D Aspect [assuming that there is one.]

安库尔：既然围绕地球的战斗现在主要在第四维度进行，那么我们这个时候进行星体投射工作是否安全，还是我们应该等到 2007 年地球之战完成后再进行？
Ankur: Since the battle is now being fought mostly in the Fourth Dimension, is it safe to do Astral projection work or should one wait until 2007 after the battle for Earth is complete?

赫鲁：这因人而异。地球上不同人身上的防护强度有高有低。有些人身上的植入物和黑暗编程，在某些情况下比其他人更容易引来黑暗。如果一个人一直在进行星体投射旅行并且感觉这样做是安全的，那他们可能会继续这样做下去，因为这表明他们周围有足够的保护，以避免他们在这个过程中发生任何的不测。如果一个人容易受到黑暗的攻击或植入，或者有可怕的梦或会看到鬼魂——即看到任何在第四维度发生的负面的事情——那么这个人应该避免使用星体投射，并寻求其他的冥想方式和其他进行内在旅行的方式。除了星体投射之外，还有其他的内在世界的旅行方式也可以达到相同的效果。
Heru: That will vary from individual to individual. People carry with them greater and lesser degrees of protection. People carry with them implants and Dark programs that would attract Darkness in some cases more than others. If an individual has been doing Astral travel and feels safe doing it they may continue, for that would be an indication that they have sufficient protection around them to avoid any of the pitfalls that happen with that work. If a person tends to be attacked or implanted by the Dark, or has frightening dreams or sees ghosts - any of those negative things that happen on the Fourth Dimension - then that person should steer clear of that and seek other ways of meditation and other ways of travel. There are other ways of travel on the Inner world other than Astral projection.

安库尔：比如在心智体中进行旅行？
Ankur: Such as traveling in the Mental body for example?

赫鲁：是的，人们可以进入自己的内在世界，不断的深入其中。人们也可以要求与自己灵魂阶梯上的其它灵魂相会，无论他们身处哪一个维度，这都会是一次愉快的内在之旅。
Heru: Yes, and going into the Inner Realms, going more in than out. Asking to meet with one's Aspects, wherever they are, can be an enjoyable trip.

安库尔：赫鲁教给我们两种影响天气的技术：一种是引起降雨，另一种是止雨。 这种或另一种技术可以用来阻止飓风或其他“自然”灾害吗？ 地震很难预测，但我们可以看到飓风的进展——我的问题是，我们能阻止它们吗？ 如果是这样，那么召集一群光之工作者尝试这样做是个好主意吗？
Ankur: Heru teaches us two techniques to affect the weather: one to cause rainfall and another to stop rain. Can this or another technique be used to stop hurricanes or other "natural" disasters? Earthquakes are difficult to predict, but we can see the progress of hurricanes - my question is, can we stop them? If so, is it a good idea to assemble a group of Light Workers who would try to do this?

赫鲁：答案是肯定的，而且已经完成了。 今年，有人试图减缓、拖延和削弱丽塔和威尔玛的力量，但两者造成的损失都比卡特里娜飓风要小。 那是因为人们更加意识到需要阻止他们并减慢他们的速度。
Heru: The answer is yes, and it has been done. This year there were attempts to slow down, stall, and weaken Rita and Wilma, and both of them did less damage than Katrina. And that was because there was much more of an awareness of needing to stop them and slow them down.

安库尔：那么团体会有助于做到这一点吗？
Ankur: So would groups be helpful in doing this?

赫鲁：是的，团体会非常有帮助。 光战士和神战士，如果你愿意的话，他们是这方面非常强大的盟友。 但任何形式的集体祈祷都会缓和这样的事件。
Heru: Yes, groups would be very helpful. The Light Warriors and the God Warriors, if you would call them in, are very powerful allies in this. But any kind of group prayer will soften an event like that.

安库尔：时间旅行可能吗？如果可能，那最初造物主能否回到黑暗入侵之前并阻止它的发生？
Ankur: Is time travel possible? If so, can Prime Creator go back to before the Darkness invaded and prevent it from ever happening?

赫鲁：是的，时间旅行是可能的；而且它已经被多次使用了。这里的许多读者实际上来自他们自己的未来，他们这么做是希望能尽自己的一份力，为最初造物主能够回到过去，终结黑暗，阻止它的发生而铺平道路。为了让最初造物主最终能做到这一点，我们还需要做很多工作，我们需要打下很多的基础——但这就是最终的计划。 [安库尔：真的吗？]？ 是的。正如我所说，你们中的许多人都是从自己的未来而来，以协助这一过程的。
Heru: Yes, time travel is possible; it is done quite a bit. Many of the Readers here are actually visiting from their future in an effort to pave the way for that very thing to be done. Much work will need to be laid, much groundwork needs to be laid, in order for Prime Creator to do this - but that is the eventual plan. [Ankur:Really?]? Yes. And as I say, many of you have come from your own future in order to assist in this process.

安库尔：发现“圣光的回归‘网站和《圣光的回归》极大地改变了我的世界观。在这一发现之前，我确信负面外星人和其他人正在通过光明会及其在地球上精心设计的阴谋集团网络来使地球陷入束缚。但我不知道问题的范围会如此之大，以至于涉及到了整个宇宙！《圣光的回归》使我的世界观扩大了一千倍。我曾计划，在我自己的疗愈完成后，尽我所能让人们意识到光明会的控制体系——我不确定我具体该如何进行这一工作，但我意识到，除非我们能转变人们的思想，否则我们任何改变世界的努力都将是徒劳的。我认为仅仅提供真实的信息还是不够的，首先我们要让人们摆脱让他们沉睡的魔咒。所以一开始我主要是在互联网上来完成对阴谋集团的地表控制体系的揭露工作。我的问题是，既然光战士现在来这里是为了消灭光明会，那向我这样的工作还有价值吗？我们这时投入在解放人们思想上的努力是有用的吗？不过我任何重大的努力都需要在我自己疗愈完成之后才能进行。
Ankur: Discovering the Return of Light web site and book changed my worldview significantly. Before this discovery, I was convinced that the Negative Extraterrestrials and others were working through the Illuminati, and their elaborate network of conspirators on Earth, to keep the Planet in chains. But I had no idea that the problem was of such a grand scope as to involve entire universes! The Return of Light expanded my worldview by a thousand-fold. I had planned, after my own healing was complete, to do whatever I can to make people aware of the Illuminati's conrtrol -I'm not sure what, but I realized that any effort to change the world would be useless unless we addressed how people think first. It's not enough to provide truthful information, but to break people from their hypnotic spells first. So I was primarily going to work on the Internet for all this, in the beginning. My question is, since the Light Warriors are now here to take down the Illuminati, is any such project worthwhile? Is it useful to place any effort on liberating people's minds at this time? Any major effort on my part would need to come after my own healing.

赫鲁：确实，你们在互联网上的工作非常有用。人类头脑中的编程曾经完全控制了人类的思想，但就像《圣光的回归》一书改变了你的思想一样，你也可以在网上使用自己的话语、自己的努力去接触人们，并用同样的方式去改变他们。互联网是一个非常有效的工具，是让转变大众思想的不可或缺的，极具价值的工具。
Heru: Indeed, such work would be very useful. The programming that has happened in Human minds has been so complete that, just as the Return of Light book turned your perspective around, so you too can reach out to people with your own words, your own efforts, and do the same for others. It is a very effective tool and a very needed and worthwhile one.

安库尔：赫鲁和其他光之存有是否预见到战争、疾病和贫困等问题会在我们的有生之年——或者未来几十年内消失？
Ankur: Do Heru and the other Light Beings foresee the disappearance of such things as war, disease, and poverty in our lifetimes - or within the next several decades?

赫鲁：是的。 随着正面的外星人来到这个星球，这项工作可以相对迅速地发生。
Heru: Yes. With the advent of the Positive ET's to this Planet, that work can happen with relative swiftness.

安库尔：你认为这会在未来几十年内发生吗？
Ankur: Would you say this will occur in the next several decades?

赫鲁：未来几十年内将会取得很大进展。我不能说一切都会完成，但所有生命的幸福感都将会显着增加。
Heru: Within the next several decades much progress will be made. I cannot say that everything will be finished, but there will be a significant increase in the welfare of all life.

安库尔：我们现在有来自最初造物主、光之存有和光战士的直接而强烈的干预……地球人能做些什么来显着加速净化和疗愈的过程吗？
Ankur: We now have direct and intense intervention from Prime Creator, Light Beings, and the Light Warriors ... is there anything the people of Earth can do to significantly accelerate the cleansing and healing?

赫鲁：你们可以做的有很多。人们首先要做的就是为了自己而努力。这并不是说他们不应该积极参与社会计划或政治外展，但如果人们的自我内部不和谐，那么他们采取的每一项行动都会产生连锁反应，导致外在的不和谐。因此，人们的第一个行动应该是确保他们清除了自己身上负面实体和堕落者的编程，以便他们能够看清一切。 然后他们就应该开始投入他们在心中热情高歌的事业。对于某些人来说，他们将投入环保事业，对某些人来说，他们将投入政治改革，对某些人来说，他们将投入医疗改革，等等。我们还有很多事情要去完成。在你们开始外部的行动时，请尽可能多地寻求帮助，无论是向光战士、大天使、还是像我这样的造物主神等等。邀请我们所有人尽可能地与你们同行，并邀请我们进入你们的世界，进入你们的现实。这样做，你们就不会重蹈过去人们的覆辙，他们在过去的政治革命中经常在推翻了一个暴君后，又把新上任的人变成了另一个暴君。
Heru: There is quite a bit. The first thing that people must do is to work on themselves. That is not to say that they should not be active in social programs or political outreach, but if a person is out of harmony within the self each action that they will take will then have a ripple effect causing disharmony. So the first action would be for individuals to make sure they are cleared of entities and the Fallen programming so that they then can see clearly. And then they should embark upon what is passionately singing in their heart. For some it will be the environment, for some it will be political reform, for some it will be health reform, and so on. There is much to be done. In embarking on the external action, invoke as much help as you can, be it the Light Warriors, the Archangels, Creator Gods such as myself, and so on. Invoke all of us to walk with you as much as possible, and invite us into your world, into your reality. In so doing you will not be changing one tyrannical master for another tyrannical master as has so often happened in political revolutions in the past.

安库尔：我想了解所谓的星光层的下层区域——即存在恶魔生命形式的那些星光层区域。我的问题是，这个区域是谁创造的？
Ankur: I want to know about the so-called Lower Astral regions - places where demonic life forms are found. My question is, who created this Realm?

赫鲁：创造它的不仅仅是一个人。这个区域是由黑暗势力共同努力创造的，其几乎构成了一个围绕这个地表世界的世界，这样任何试图离开第三维度地球或扬升的人都会首先遇到这个黑暗势力创造的世界。
Heru: It was not just one individual that created it. It was a concerted effort by the Dark to create what almost constitutes a World surrounding this World, so that anyone trying to leave or Ascend would run into this World first.

安库尔：另外，我过去在别的书中读到说，从能量的层面来说，星光层的下层区域处于星光层主要的维度结构以外的另一侧——因此第三维度人类并非必须穿过星光层的下层区域才能前往其他地方。这种说法正确吗？
Ankur: Also, I read that the Lower Astral Region is energetically sideways to the Main Dimensional structure - so a Third Dimensional Human does not have to pass through the Lower Astral in order to travel to other places. Is this correct?

赫鲁：如果人们能够做到的话，是的，人们无需经过星光层下层区域就能前往其他地方。 [安库尔：还有，现在光战士来了，那么星光层下层区域会被清理吗？] 它正在被清理。
Heru: If they are able to, yes. They can travel to other places without going through the Lower Realms. [Ankur: Also, now that the Light Warriors are here, will this Realm be cleaned out?] It is being cleaned out.

安库尔：这个星光层下层区域目前的状况如何，是否仍然会阻碍人们扬升？
Ankur: What is the current status of this Lower Astral Realm, and does it still prevent ascension?

赫鲁：光明势力已经清理了这个区域的65%。不过我们依然还有很多事情要做。
Heru: It is 65% cleaned up. There is still quite a bit to do.

安库尔：它会阻碍人们扬升吗？
Ankur: Is it preventing people from Ascending?

赫鲁：是的。Yes.

安库尔：清理工作需要多长时间？
Ankur: How much longer will the cleanup take?

赫鲁：我认为两到三个月后情况就会大不相同。
Heru: I think in two to three months things will look quite different.

安库尔：地球上的人们可以做些什么来帮助原子修正，好让原子修正变得更加容易吗？
Ankur: Is there anything the people on Earth can do to help with the Atomic Corrections - something that would make it significantly easier?

赫鲁：邀请原子修正进入他们自身的人越多，原子修正所带来的能量就越大。并会在某一点上会达到临界质量。
Heru: The more people that invite for the Atomic Correction to come into their Being, the more energy it will have to come through. At a certain point there will be a critical mass achieved.

安库尔：《圣光的回归》的受众是谁？仅仅是光工还是全人类？
Ankur: Who is the audience for the Return of Light material? Is it just Light Workers or all of Humanity in general?

赫鲁：我对于是否要将光工与其他人类区分开来感到犹豫。我想说这本书适合于任何可以与书中的信息材料产生共鸣的人。而这些人中的大多数都是我们通常所说的光之工作者，但也会有其他人对书中的信息做出回应。
Heru: I hesitate to put a separation between Light Workers and the rest of Humanity. I would say it is for anyone that who resonates with this material. The majority of those people would be what are commonly termed Light Workers, but there will be others as well who respond to this message.

安库尔：如果这本书是面向全人类的，那么我们该如何传播被大多数人视为激进的信息呢？
Ankur: If the latter, then how does one go about spreading information that will be perceived as radical by most people?

赫鲁：随着时间的推移，人们的这种感觉会越来越少。
Heru: As time goes by it will seem less and less so.

安库尔：星际种子是谁？他们是书中提到的光之工作者团体的一部分吗？三年前，一位通灵者提到我是一名星际种子。我曾经做过一个关于星际种子的梦，然后醒来看到时钟上是时间是“9:11”。
Ankur: Who are the Starseeds? Are they part of the Light Worker group mentioned in the book? Three years ago, a psychic mentioned that I was a Starseed. I once had a dream about Starseeds, then woke up to see "9: 11" on the clock.

赫鲁：是的，星际种子是从其他世界来到这个世界的存有们。这涵盖所有光工。事实上，地球土著存有的数量并不多。地球上的几乎每个人都是从其他地方来到这里的。所以从本质上来说，现在地球上的每个人都是星际种子。地球上的人类并不都是在这个宇宙发生堕落后前来提供援助的那波存有，他们中的一些人在那之前就已经来到了地球上，还有一些是在援助浪潮之后才来到这里的。在援助浪潮后能到达这里的存有非常非常少，但确实有一些存有是在那之后才到达这里的。
Heru: Yes, Starseeds are beings who have come to this world from other worlds. And that would encompass all of the Light Workers. There are actually not that many native Earthlings; almost everyone has come here from somewhere else. So in essence just about everyone here is a Starseed. Not everyone here came in that wave of Beings who came to help when the Fall happened. Some came before, some came after. Very few came after, but some did.

安库尔：据说光之宇宙和业力也存在着一定的关系，而业力是存有生活在堕落宇宙中时服用的一种毒丸。那么所谓的业力领主是谁呢？他们管理着业力系统吗？如果是这样，如果业力是黑暗势力创造的，那么业力领主不就是为黑暗势力服务的吗？请原谅我在这件事上的无知。
Ankur: It is said that there is on Karma in a Light Universe, and that Karma is a kind of poisonous pill that one takes when living in the Fallen Universes. But then who are the so-called Lords of Karma? Do they manage the Karmic system? And if so, and if Karma is a creation of the Dark, then aren't the Lords of Karma serving the Dark side? Please forgive my ignorance in this matter.

赫鲁：当黑暗势力第一次入侵这些扇区时，光明势力与黑暗势力双方发生了激烈的战斗，并且达成了一些不稳定的休战和协议。其中之一就是引入了业力的这一整个概念，因为从能量频率的角度来说，很明显，一个人不可能在这个黑暗扇区里烧杀抢掠后，还有能力进入到光明的扇区，就好像什么都没有发生过一样。因此，光明势力与黑暗势力之间达成了一项不稳定的休战和协议，旨在对所有这一切进行制衡。业力领主被请来作为此事的中立调解人。但现在他们是否真的还保持着中立这一点，需要另当别论。因此业力是黑暗影响下的产物，但平衡或释放业力的整个系统是由光明势力和黑暗势力双方共同决定的。但业力并不总能最好的服务于光，因为基本上一旦人们陷入业力之轮，他们就永远无法从中脱离出来。
Heru: There were great battles when the Dark first invaded for control of these Sectors and there were some uneasy truces and agreements that were made. One of them was this whole concept of Karma, because it was seen that a person couldn't rape, pillage, and burn in this Dark Sector, and energetically be able to cross over into the Light Sector as if nothing had happened. So one of the uneasy truces and agreements that was made between the Light and Dark was set up to be a check and balance on all of that. The Lords of Karma were brought in as neutral mediators on this. Now whether they have in truth remained neutral is another issue. Therefore Karma is an effect of the Dark, but the whole system of balancing or releasing Karma was put in play by both sides. It has not always really best worked to serve the Light because basically once a person is entrapped in the wheel of Karma they don't ever get out.

安库尔：业力之主是保持中立的吗？我和他们一起共事过，他们看起来非常有爱心。在我们处理各种问题的过程中，也多次有人建议我们将他们引入进来。
Ankur: Have the Lords of Karma remained neutral? I have worked with them and they seemed very loving. Also there have been many times during our work on various issues where it has been suggested that we bring them in .

赫鲁：我认为它们本质上是面向光和中性的，但它们可能已经被扭曲了。我确信我们需要对他们以及其他人进行扫描。我发自内心的认为整个业力系统都需要被拆除。我一点都不喜欢这个系统。
Heru: . I think they are basically Light oriented and neutral, but they perhaps have distortions. I'm sure scanning needs to be done on them as well as on everyone else. My fundamental feeling is that the whole system needs to be dismantled. I don't like it.

埃洛拉：我们的读者提问到此结束，现在我想提出一些进一步的问题。请向我们提供有关其它堕落宇宙的最新信息。与我们这个堕落宇宙相比，它们现在的状态如何？
Elora: This completes our Reader questions, and now Iwould like to pose some further queries. Please give us an update on the rest of the Fallen Universes. How are they doing compared to this Universe?

赫鲁：堕落的宇宙的情况目前都很接近。有一些（可能不到 1%）堕落宇宙的情况明显好于你们这个宇宙正在发生的情况，并且可能有 10-12%的堕落宇宙在所有方面都明显落后于你们这个宇宙。但总体而言，堕落宇宙中发生的事情和情况大抵相似。
Heru: Roughly everyone is in about the same place. There are a few, maybe less than 1%, that are significantly ahead of what is happening in this Universe, and maybe 10-12% are lagging in any kind of significant way behind where this Universe is. But overall they are fairly evenly bunched together in what is happening.

埃洛拉：我有一个关于什么是舒曼共振的问题。我这里有一段话总结了这个现象：
Elora: I have a question on what is called the Schumann Resonance. I have a paragraph here which summarizes this phenomenon:

舒曼共振是对地球振动率的测量，更具体地说是对地球表面和电离层之间的空间中自然循环的节奏信号的测量。这些频率被认为对地球上的所有生命都有着深远的影响。一位作者指出：自然产生的电磁信号的频率，在地球和电离层边界的电谐振腔中循环，控制或决定了人类主要的脑电波信号工作频率的“进化”或发展。特别是，阿尔法波的所处的波频使其在任何情况下都不会受到自然出现的信号的全面干扰。
The Schumann Resonance is a measure of the vibration rate of the Earth, more specifically a measurement of naturally circulating rhythmic signals in the space between the surface of the Earth and the Ionosphere. These frequencies are thought to have a profound effect on all life on the Planet. One writer stated: The frequencies of naturally occurring electromagnetic signals, circulating in the electrically resonant cavity bounded by the Earth and the Ionosphere, have governed or determined the 'evolution' or development of the frequencies of operation of the principal Human brain-wave signals. In particular, the Alpha rhythm is so placed that it can in no circumstances suffer an extensive interference from naturally occurring signals.

从第一次记录起，舒曼共振稳定在每秒 7.8 个周期。但其最近一直在上涨。人们对此存在争议，但最近一些方面的报告已将这一比率设定为每秒超过 11 个周期，并且还在不断攀升。
From the time it was first recorded, the Schumann Resonance was stable at 7.8 cycles per second. Recently it has been rising. There is controversy about this, but recent reports from some quarters have set the rate at over 11 cycles and climbing.

有人说，这些变化来自地表的大量超低频装置以及名为 HAARP/高空极光研究计划的电离层加热装置对电离层破坏所产生的负面影响，而舒曼共振的上升是非常危险的，并可能是灾难性的，这会对人类和其他生命形式的脑电波产生不利的影响等等。其他人则说，舒曼共振频率的上升与人类意识的上升相对应，当它达到每秒 13.个周期时，地球将达到所谓的“零点”，并取得巨大的进化飞跃。这件事的真相到底是什么？
Some people say that this is the negative effect of the disruption of the Ionosphere by massive ELF from the surface, as well as from the installation called HAARP, and that the rising of the Schumann Resonance is very dangerous and potentially disastrous, that this adversely affects the brainwaves of Humans and other life forms and so on. Others say that the rise in this frequency corresponds with the rise in Human consciousness, and that when it reaches 13.0, the Planet will reach what is termed "zero point" and take a great evolutionary leap forward. What is the truth of this matter?

赫鲁：真实的情况要比一个非此即彼的结论更复杂。首先我想说的是，关于第二个理论，即舒曼共振的上升代表或创造了意识的上升，我想对此提出异议。如果你观察这个星球上人类的整体振动水平，你会发现它目前仍在下降而不是在上升。人类处于一种非常痛苦和恐惧的状态，并且非常封闭。而且城市化程度越高的地区，这种情况就越严重。我在地球上的第三世界国家观察并思考了这一点，因为那儿的人们不断离开他们的农场，离开他们的土地，进入了大城市，在那里他们生活在与大地土壤隔绝的贫困环境之中。这导致了他们意识网格频率的进一步下降。对此我还能说什么呢？舒曼共振的上升是不可避免的。它上升的部分原因是源自你所列出的那些技术，但它也是地球转型的必要组成部分。所以我不能说它是有害的还是有益的。就在目前地球的这个时间节点上，它还会继续上升。一旦地球完成了它的转变，舒曼共振就会回落到更加和谐安宁的振动水平。
Heru: It is more complicated than just an either/or. First I would like to say that regarding the second theory, that the rise in the Schumann Resonance represents or creates a rise in consciousness, I would want to dispute that. If you look at the overall vibrational level of Humans on this Planet, it is currently still descending rather than ascending. Humans are in a very stark state of misery and fear and are very shut down. And this intensifies the more they are urbanized. I'm thinking of this in the Third World countries as people leave their farms, leave the earth, and go into the mega cities where they are living in poverty cut off from the earth. This is a further degradation of their net awareness. What more can I say on this? It is inevitable that the Schumann Resonance will rise. It is in part the technologies that you have listed, but it is also a necessary component in the transformation of the Planet. So I can't say that it is either harmful or beneficial. It just is at this point, and it will continue to rise. Once the Earth has gone through its Changes, it will drop back to a more harmonious and restful vibrational level.

[埃洛拉：我感觉赫鲁在这里所说的是类似于人们的身体被病原体入侵时的情况。在这种情况下，人们会发烧并以此来消除疾病。当身体恢复健康时，人们的体温就会降至正常。舒曼共振的上升在某种程度上就像地球在发烧一样。]
[Elora: I had the sense that Heru was speaking here about something analogous to a person whose body is invaded by pathogens. That person develops a fever and burns off the illness. When the body returns to health, the temperature drops to normal. It's almost as if the rise in the Schumann Resonance, in part, is like the Earth having a fever.]

埃洛拉：目前有许多关于一种称为光子带的现象的文章。据报道，光子带是一条强烈的光子（光）能量带，它正处在地球即将经过的轨道路径上。当地球进入光子带时，预计地表的情况会发生巨大变化。对此，出现了有许多诸如五天的黑暗、电力彻底瘫痪、大规模不明飞行物登陆、光子能量转换装置、全人类都会获得神通、我们的人体转化为更高维度的形式、光明会的灭亡等等的预言。最初人们预测地球将于 1996 年底进入光子带，但这些预测都没有发生。你之前曾说过，光子带是一个高度带电的空间区域，而化学尾迹在某种程度上是黑暗势力对地球进入光子带后的自我防御措施。你能谈谈光子带吗？它是什么以及它会如何影响我们的星球？
Elora: Much has been written about a phenomenon called the Photon Belt. The Photon Belt is reportedly a band of intense photon (light) energy that is on a collision course with Earth. When it gets here, things are predicted to change dramatically. There have been predictions of five days of darkness, no more electricity, mass UFO landings, photon energy conversion devices, psychic abilities for all Humans, transformation of our Human bodies into Higher Dimensional forms, the demise of the Illuminati, and much more. The Photon Belt was first predicted to arrive by the end of 1996 but none of these predictions have occurred. You previously stated that the Photon Belt was a highly charged area of space and that the chemtrails were to some degree a defense against this phenomenon. Would you speak about the Photon Belt - what it is and how it affects our Planet?

赫鲁：是的。 光子带是一个由高能粒子组成的高电荷区域，太阳系已进入了该光子带。 我认为也许这些预测有些极端，但并没有超出正在发生和即将发生的事情的范围。我不认为我们会看到五天的黑暗，但我们将在这个光子带中呆上大约十到十五年，在那段时间里，许多预测的事情都会发生。但这一切不会像打开电灯开关一样瞬间发生，地球过去不在光子带中，而现在地球正处在光子带中，因此一切都不同了。是的，黑暗势力释放化学尾迹（的部分目的）是为了阻止这种能量进入地表。
Heru: Yes. The Photon Belt is a highly charged area of higher energy particles, and the Solar System has entered this Belt. I think perhaps those predictions are somewhat extreme but not that far out of the range of the things that are and will be happening. I don't think we will see five days of darkness, but we will be in this Band for some perhaps ten to fifteen years, and over that time much of what has been predicted will happen. But it will not be like turning on a light switch where the Earth wasn't in the Photon Belt, and now it's in it and everything is different. And the chemtrails, yes, are [in part] an attempt to keep out that energy.

埃洛拉：关于光子带的最著名的书是根据谢尔顿·奈德尔（Sheldon Nidle）传讯的信息编辑而成的，而他显然是来自银河联邦的天狼星分支。当银河联邦和/或天狼星人看到我们即将进入光子带时，他们是否曾计划对地球进行介入？
Elora: The best known book about the Photon Belt was channeled by Sheldon Nidle, apparently from the Sirian arm of the Galactic Federation. Was there, at one time, a plan on the part of the Galactic Federation and/or the Sirians to intervene on Earth when they saw that we were about to enter the Photon Belt?

赫鲁：这是我们当时希望能够达成的事情。正面外星种族的干预一直在被推迟，因为正如我之前所说，这些种族不希望对地球进行武装介入。他们希望进行和平介入。而直到他们的太空飞船能够在不被摧毁或不发生交火的情况下登陆地球之前，出于安全的考虑，他们的介入被推迟了。如果他们今天登陆地球，人类政府将向他们发射核武器，到时候不仅那些太空飞船将面临被摧毁的风险，而且这个星球上的许多生命也将被摧毁。黑暗势力的统治机构现在非常恐慌，因为他们知道正面外星种族的登陆将意味着他们统治的终结，而他们宁愿烧毁地球也不愿放弃对地球的控制。
Heru: That was hoped for. ET intervention has been continually delayed due to the fact that, as I stated earlier, there is not a wish to have armed intervention. There is a wish to have peaceful intervention. And until such time as the Space-ships can come without being destroyed or without engaging in a firefight, this has been delayed for safety reasons. If they came today the governments would fire nuclear weapons on them and not only would those Space-ships risk being destroyed but much life on this Planet would be destroyed as well. There is much fear in the Dark ruling bodies because they know this would be the end of their rule, and they would rather burn the Earth than give up control.

埃洛拉：请给我们一些有关银河联盟的信息。
Elora: Please give us some information on the Galactic Federation.

赫鲁：银河联盟是一个由许多外星人组成的机构，其领导者是第九维度的存有，但他们的成员涵盖了从第九维度到第五维度的存有。他们的使命是努力将地球从黑暗势力的统治中解放出来。几个世纪以来，他们一直在为此努力，将事情安排到位，尽可能地渗透到地球上一些小的区域中。
Heru: The Galactic Federation is a body of many ET's, the Leaders of which are Ninth Dimensional Beings, but they encompass Beings from the Ninth down through to the Fifth Dimension. And their mission has been to work towards liberating the Earth from the Dark Forces. They have worked towards this for many centuries, setting things in place, infiltrating when they can in small areas.

埃洛拉：阿斯塔指挥部与银河联盟有何关系？
Elora: How is the Ashtar Command related to the Galactic Federation?

赫鲁：阿斯塔指挥部是银河联盟的一个分支。
Heru: The Ashtar Command is a wing of the Galactic Federation.

埃洛拉：一个与地球更密切相关的分支？
Elora: One that more closely concerns Earth?

赫鲁：是的。Yes.

埃洛拉：你之前说过，负面外星人，比如灰人和天龙人，是堕落造物主神创造的种族。我们知道，灰人尤其要对地球上数百万被绑架人类负责，这些人类被用于他们的遗传学计划。负面外星人目前的状况如何？他们大部分都被俘虏了吗？
Elora: You stated earlier that the Negative ET's, such as the Greys and the Dracos, are Races created by Fallen Creator Gods. We know that the Greys in particular have been responsible for millions of abductions of Humans who were used in their genetics programs. What is the current status of the Negative ET's? Have most of them been captured?

赫鲁：是的，我想说他们中 80% 以上的成员都已经被抓获。光明势力目前还没有制定如何处理他们的计划，因此他们被集中关押在一个地区。针对他们的相关工作正在进行中，光明势力与他们的谈判也正在进行中，并且一些针对他们的实验也正在进行中，以确定是否有可能将他们的振动频率提升到足以允许他们从堕落的扇区返回光之扇区并融入其中所需的水平。
Heru: Yes, I would say upwards of 80% of them have been captured. It has not been formulated what would be done with them, so they are being held in an area. Work is being done, negotiations are being made and some experiments are being done on whether it is possible to uplift their vibration to where they are able to be integrated into the rest of the Fallen Sector as it returns to Light.

埃洛拉：他们确实有灵魂，不是吗？
Elora: They do have souls, do they not?

赫鲁：是的。Yes.

埃洛拉：那些灵魂难道不能被光明势力修正后，再转生进入一个人类的身体中吗？人们相信这种事情未来一定会发生。
Elora: Couldn't those souls be worked with, and then incarnated into Human type bodies? It is believed something of that nature will happen.

赫鲁：是的，这会发生。yes.

埃洛拉：关于抓捕负面外星人：这是否意味着那些遭受绑架（包括多次绑架）的人现在将摆脱这种情况？
Elora: Regarding the capture of the Negative ET's: Does this mean that people who have suffered from abductions, including repeated abductions, will now be free from this?

赫鲁：去年开始，绑架事件已经明显减少。
Heru: The abductions are diminished quite significantly in the last year.

埃洛拉：最终会停止吗？
Elora: And will ultimately stop?

赫鲁：是的。Yes.

埃洛拉：我听说过很多关于外星人的事。 地球上的地下基地，例如新墨西哥州杜尔塞附近的基地。据信，这些基地的工作人员包括有灰人、天龙人和其他负面外星人，并由他们与光明会联合管理。有些人进入了这些基地并活了下来——他们看到了这些外星人以第三维度密度的物理形态出现。目前这些地下基地中的外星人的情况是怎么样的？
Elora: I have heard a good deal about the E.T. Underground Bases on Earth, such as those in the vicinity of Dulce, New Mexico. It is believed that these bases are staffed by Beings such as the Greys, Dracos, and other Negative ET's, and run by them in conjunction with the Illuminati. There are people who have gone into these Bases and lived to tell - and they have seen these ET's present in dense physical form. What is the status of the E.T. Underground Bases at the present time?

赫鲁：它们目前仍安然无恙；在那里的负面外星人还没有被光明势力捕获。而那些从那里离开并前往地球大气层之外的负面外星人中的许多人都被光明势力俘虏了。所以他们目前处于蹲伏状态，试图躲避光之存有。另外发生的一件事是，那些与这些基地的通讯和物资供应等有关的供应链都被切断。那里的负面外星人现在孤立无援，并且处于恐惧和恐慌的状态——他们知道自己的日子屈指可数了。
Heru: They are still intact; the ET's that are there have not been captured. Of those who have left there to travel outside the Earth's atmosphere, many of them have been captured. So they are in a hunker-down mode, trying to stay sheltered from the Light Beings. Also one thing that has happened is the communication and flow of supplies and so on to the Bases has been cut off. The Beings there are isolated and in a state of fear and panic - they know that their days are numbered.

埃洛拉：天龙人和其他负面外星人在 1997 年秋天曾进行过一次夺取地球的重大尝试，对吗？
Elora: Is it correct that there was a major attempt on the part of the Dracos and others to capture Earth in the Fall of 1997?

赫鲁：是的，这是真实发生的事情。Yes, it is true.

埃洛拉：我们今天的问题就这样结束了，赫鲁。 谢谢你提供的信息。
Elora: That completes our questions for today, Heru. Thank you for this information.

赫鲁：我对你们所有人送上爱与祝福。
Heru: My love and my blessings to all of you.